UEFA EURO 2020
Absolutely devastated at the news today.
Applied with a friend - me (16 active CAPS, him (11 active CAPS). Allocated every single England game recently refunded £800 give or take each.
Into the ballot and every game unsuccessful except;
We applied together and I’ve been given a Croatia ticket category 2 and he hasn’t. I’m clearly not in the top 70% of cappers, but they’ve allocated me a Croatia ticket and not the other two. He has been UNSUCCESSFUL in ALL group games. How have they decided I’m eligible for a Croatia ticket, but not Scotland or Czech.
Applied together, been screwed together. We are both bitterly disappointed. I’d rather have both of us been unsuccessful than me obtaining ONE out of the possible SIX tickets between us both.
None of it makes any sense and tbh I don’t really want to go to a game on my own. It just defeats the object of going with friends / family and having that special atmosphere.
Can anyone please explain to me ( top top cappers, with a lot of experience of following England for donkeys years) how I have somehow been accepted to one game and not the others?? This ballot seems to be drawn as random as it gets and it’s wholly upsetting after all the summer we have looked forward to for the best part of two years now.
In reply to David Lilley:
In reply to Alex Field:
My thoughts - you might not agree with them. But dust yourself down and get the tickets purchased.
IMO you'd be daft not to. There'll be plenty in your position. This tournament was never going to have the same feel as others. Just make the most of what we have. Enjoy some ale and start nattering to others in the same position. Loads of us on here made lifelong mates by being at a loose end at matches and talking football nonsense to randoms.
Alex Field 1. Why have the ballots been done on an individual basis? It beggars belief that I’ve now got to go to a football match on my own (travel down from birmingham on my own for it) and miss out on the whole point of tournament football which for me is enjoying it with your mates. Who wants to go to a match on their own? Personally not me, but will I still buy a ticket and do it ... undecided. It just hurts, after all the hope of a great footballing summer live once again.
Whilst I agree that going to the games with mates is a big part of the experience, how else were the ESTC team expected to reballot?
The situation is that we now have 25% of the previous allocation.
Plenty of higher cappers have missed out. Certainly ones with lots more caps than yourself. That includes people in my former application group.
They'd snap your hand off to go.
Its brutal but if you'd gone to more games you'd have tickets. That been the case if you're not bothered then don't purchase - plenty of people will want them.
Alex Field 2. If a few more tickets get released and my friend gets lucky, we will also miss out on sitting together if I go ahead and buy separately. If I don’t buy, will I get a second chance in the next ballot or is this not doable? Are more tickets likely to be released in your opinion.
There will certainly be returns, people not taking up their allocation and the ESTC have historically a great record of securing futher tickets
If it's all relying on future applications being able to be linked so you can 'sit together' then you may be disappointed.
I'd think it'll be tough to link any future successful sales together.
Wether you'll be able to physically sit in an non allocated seat is another matter.
Alex Field 3. Better chance with 16 and 11 caps for 50% semi and final?
Tickets from the official FA allocation for a tournament are distributed according to the 70%/20%/10% rule. Details of the rule can be found in section 6.3 of the Travel Club rules. In the link below, this section refers to Qatar 2022 but the rules were exactly the same for Euro 2020. www.thefa.com/.../estc-rules Members applying for tickets are put into the 70%, the 20% or the 10% on the basis of their individual caps record regardless of whether they applied separately or on the same application. This has always been the case. No one is allowed to improve their chances of a ticket by piggy-backing on the caps record of someone else on the same application. If and only if you both qualify for the same ballot, you would enter the ballot together and either both be successful or both be unsuccessful. The principal advantage of applying together is that IF you are both successful then you will be allocated tickets in the same category and you will sit together. For the purposes of this week's balloting of the reduced ticket allocation, Team England decided that promising successful applicants that they would get the same ticket category would produce more anomalies than it would solve, so they didn't do it. But putting applicants into the ballots individually is not something new. If you buy the ticket offered to you, the process will give you a 'Group ID' number. If your friend is successful in a later distribution of tickets and only if he is allocated the same category as you, he can sit with you. You must give him your Group ID to enter in the appropriate input field when he buys his ticket in order to link your purchases. If you decline the ticket offered to you, I do not know whether your name would be put back in the hat, allowing you to be drawn again in a later ballot. Regarding the maths in my last post, I have been giving it more thought. We fans do not know how many people qualified for the 20% ballot. So, the 25% figure is a lower bound for the actual probability. But I think the 9% figure is pretty close to the mark. If the crowd size for the final were 50% of stadium capacity, as expected, then I estimate the corresponding figures for this single match to be around 23% and 9%, with slightly lower figures for the semi-final.
In reply to Stephen Holmes:
In reply to Roger Loughney:
Roger LoughneyI see from the follow up post, to this post of yours, that Alex Field has some degree of familiarity with you from before. If you are acting as an employee or representative of the English FA, or Wembley Stadium Limited, or an affiliated organisation, perhaps you should make your role clear to those of us who are not familiar with your activities. You might also consider whether you placing in the public domain details of people's match attendances etc means you are probably in breach of UK Data Protection legislation.
This is brilliant - I've literally just spat a mouthful of beer out.
A so called 'loyal fan' who is so sore about not getting tickets he's making accusations across multiple threads against one of the most helpful members of this forum.
I'd look a bit more internally for the reason you didn't get tickets fella rather than taking it out on David if I were you
Looking at your attendance record (click on your name) it's lack of loyalty over the years and therefore lack of caps.
Take my advice - apologise to David and then log off for a bit. You realise that you're posting on a fully open part of the forum so anyone in the world can see your rants if they search for your name and England?
In reply to Matthew Isle:
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