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Germany v England: Supporter update

Germany v England: Supporter update

Posted by Team England at 14:43 on Wednesday 10 May 2017

The FA can now issue an update on the investigation into the unacceptable behaviour witnessed around England’s fixture against Germany in Dortmund in March.

Firstly, we would like to thank all England Supporters Travel Club members who have taken the time to make contact to express their disappointment and dismay at what they witnessed in Dortmund. Furthermore, the assistance from members has proved to be invaluable throughout this process.

We have been working closely with the relevant authorities to identify a number of individuals, some of whom have already been suspended from the England Supporters Travel  Club and will now be pursued by the UK Football Policing Unit and potentially be subject to a Football Banning Order.

To date, 34 members have been investigated for their behaviour by The FA, some of whom have now been banned from the membership.

Investigations are still ongoing which may result in further sanctions.

As you will be aware, The FA has consistently urged fans to follow England in a positive way and we will continue to work hard to try to ensure a safe and enjoyable atmosphere for all supporters.

Individuals are always free to raise concerns in confidence by emailing: englandsupportersclub@thefa.com.

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  • Martin Parkes
    Martin Parkes

    Thanks for the update.

    Please could you give us some more information (without giving identifying details) as to why the 34 were banned?

    I imagine that your lawyers would rather you didn't tell us (I've been there) but I think it would be helpful for some members to know that, for example, Nazi salutes are totally unacceptable and will get you banned, etc.

    It would also be good if you could release a press statement - or ask a player to present it on the BBC - as to why 34 members have been banned and what standards of behaviour are expected by fans abroad when representing our country. Most of us behave well and are embarrassed by others' bad behaviour.

    If we could get something in the press such as "FA bans 34 'fans' for unacceptable behaviour" it might help redress the balance somewhat of the negative headlines that we received after the game in Dortmund.

    We have Malta coming up and, whilst the game won't attract the same emotions as the Germany game, there will be a large number of younger / less travelled fans there with the potential for more bad behaviour.

    Please be more proactive.

    • 21 May 2017
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  • Martin Parkes
    Martin Parkes

    Apologies, I see now that the FA did release a press statement.

    I would still like to know exactly what fans were banned for?

    One paper says it was for "Booing the German anthem", another for "singing 10 German bombers", I doubt either is correct.

    I can understand the school of thought which says, 'better not say what you can or cannot do, as then people know that they can do such-and-such and get away with it' but it really doesn't work.

    Not giving out the details won't stop (or encourage) some fans booing other countries' anthems.

    But if we tell supporters that they are very likely to be banned for; Nazi salutes, throwing beer glasses, throwing urine, etc, then I think that it would stop some and send out the right message.

    • 22 May 2017
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  • Kenneth Milton
    Kenneth Milton

    Martin it actually says 34 were investigated "some" were banned, but otherwise I agree a 'hint' or reminder as to what is unacceptable wouldn't go amiss.

    On the plus side with some bans in place that should move a few up the caps table for future tickets.

    • 24 May 2017
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  • Martin Parkes
    Martin Parkes

    I see some warnings for bad behaviour have been included in the Scotland Guide which is good, although they could be more specific. I still think they is merit in being much more specific as to how many members have been banned and for what.

    • 28 May 2017
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